End-of-year testing is upon us...boy does time fly!
Testing can be a point of frustration and anxiety for many students. Join us as we discuss tips to reduce anxiety and improve test scores.
Gwen: Real quick just to start out, if you guys can just confirm that you can hear and see me. We do have a chat function, so you can use that chat box throughout the whole webinar. But before we get started just make sure that I am loud and clear. All right, great. Looks like Laura confirmed. Perfect. All right, let's get started. Thanks for joining us. This webinar specifically is about tips for test taking. We're entering the end of the year so there's a lot of tests coming up depending on grade level and age of your child. So just to introduce myself, my name is Gwen Campbell. I'm the director of product and data here at Revibe Technologies. So today we're going to go through our webinar. We're going to talk at the end a little bit about our story and there will be a special offer for all of our webinar participants as well. We do have that chat box and we will have someone from Revibe live in the chat box the whole time. So please share any questions, concerns, anything you'd like us to talk more about in the chat box. And then at the end we'll see if we have some time for some questions. So again, thank you so much for joining us for our Tips for Testing webinar. And this is all about helping your child with test prep and test taking anxiety.
Gwen: There are some key questions that we're going to answer in this webinar. The first thing we're going to go over is just what makes test taking so difficult? And I'm sure there are some things that are obvious, but we wanted to really address the issue of why test taking seems to be so burdensome for our students and what we can do to help them. So we're going to lead into some strategies that you can actually use with your child for test preparation. This is geared for parents at home and what you can do to help your child. But we also do have some things for teachers and the students as well if anyone is interested. Then we're going to go over actual test taking and how we can actually help them the day of the test and during the test with some strategies to hopefully reduce some of that stress of taking the test the day of. And lastly we're going to go into our story here at Revibe Technologies and why we're so so passionate about helping students, parents, and teachers succeed.
Gwen: So first, why is test taking so difficult? And I'm sure we can all remember that. Test taking I don't think it's fun for anyone. I'm not sure if I've met someone that actually likes taking a test. But basically we're looking at weeks or months of hard work and learning and we're trying to show that in one snapshot. So it's really difficult for not only the test makers, but also the test takers, to be able to actually show what they've learned in a whole school year or a chunk of the school year in that one test. So it's very stressful. It's high pressure. You want to make sure that you're showing all the things that you've learned and it's just that one chance to really show what you've got so it tends to be a pretty stressful and difficult experience. The second thing that we see a lot of students struggle with is having an allotted time frame. So a lot of them are limited to just a class period or maybe a few ours of exam time. And this can be very stressful. The idea of running out of time, not having enough time to figure out the answers or work through a problem. So we see a lot of kids get worried or struggle with an allotted time frame. So we have some strategies to help with that as well.
Gwen: The third thing that we see with test taking is that it can affect feelings of self worth, which may or may not be accurate. So a lot of times there will be circumstances kind of outside of control of the students where they don't perform as well on the test. It's not because they weren't smart enough, it's not because they weren't capable. They may have just needed some tools in the toolbox to help them prepare a little bit better, or they just had a bad day the day of and it just kind of is unfortunate circumstances. So we have some strategies as well to work with feelings of self worth and what you as the parent can do, whether the test comes out impressive or maybe a little bit disappointing. But we do have some strategies to help with the feelings of self worth around test taking time. And then lastly obviously the fear of the unknown. It's really terrifying to show up test day, you're not exactly sure what questions are going to be on the test, what material you're going to be quizzed on, and so just kind of the fear of the unknown of are you prepared? Do you have a the materials? This can be really stressful and difficult for our students.
Gwen: Now we're going to go into some strategies that can actually help with preparation of tests. So this is, you know there's a test coming up and this is helping your student prepare. The first thing that we recommend is to dissipate study sessions. So our golden rule is to plan two weeks ahead. And sometimes that's not possible. Sometimes for whatever reason you don't get two weeks notice that a test is coming up. But try to plan ahead as long as you have. So even if you only get notified a week ahead, start that time, that seven days out planning how you can start to actually dissipate some of your study sessions across that whole week. Like we said, we really recommend two weeks ahead if that's possible, especially if you're student struggles with focus and attention. The more you can dissipate those study sessions, the better in general over those two weeks but that makes a big difference. And so that leads us into no cramming. Cramming can be very cognitively overwhelming for everyone, and especially with those that struggle with focus and attention. It's really difficult for you to actually cram weeks or months worth of information into your head in one night or two nights, or even three nights. So that's why we really really recommend that two week golden window or as long as possible if you can't use two weeks.
Gwen: And lastly one of our strategies is to use chunking, which we're going to go into next in more detail. Chunking actually can be used when you're dissipating study sessions over a two week time period. So basically chunking is just breaking down the whole allotment of material into smaller chunks. So depending on your particular child's age and needs, those chunks may be slightly different sizes. But in general we want to try to limit them to one or two things. So as an example, if you're student has 10 chapters to study for their test that two weeks ahead, try to just do a chapter a night every night, and then you have a few days before the test to actually do a review and actually go over all 10 chapters. But that way you're chunking it into specific smaller chunks, so your child isn't cognitively overwhelmed over their whole two weeks of studying and preparing for the test. A great strategy with chunking is also using a list. So you can use a checklist so they can feel some sense of [inaudible 00:09:30].
Gwen: So that way your child isn't surprised by the study schedule. They know what's coming up next, they know what's expected, and that it's not going to be too overwhelming day to day. A great strategy with chunking is you can actually cover up physical materials. This is really great if there's a lot of reading or a large textbook page that they're trying to review. So that way you can use an index card, a piece of paper, something like that to cover up half the page. So that way you're actually chunking down a full page of text into smaller segments. And again, this is just less cognitively overwhelming and they can actually process each piece of information before moving forward. We found that's a very helpful strategy for getting through big blocks of things like text or if it's a long page of stuff that they have to study.
Gwen: Another strategy is to physically separate study materials. So like we talked about with our 10 chapter example. If there's a study guide of, say it's one page per chapter, only put out chapter one's work on the first night. So we're not even worrying about the other nine chapters. We're just tonight we're worrying about chapter one, all the materials that we need for chapter one, and we're going to keep everything else out of eyesight. And the reason why this is helpful is because it doesn't overwhelm your child or have a feeling of being anxious or worried or stressed that they have nine other chapters to get through. We're just focusing on tonight. We just want to get through chapter one. We want to really understand it, review it, go through our study guide, whatever other materials you have. But this strategy really helps them not be too overwhelmed and also be able to just concentrate on one thing at a time without feeling really worried and overwhelmed with the whole sum of all of it. So like we were talking about, only try to have the next one to two items within eyesight. And again, this is all just about not overwhelming your student and trying to make this a more calming and pleasant and positive experience.
Gwen: Another strategy is to optimize the study area. So if you can, if it's possible, have a specific area for studying or homework. This can really help with actual cognitive function. A nice organized desk is obviously best. If you can make it a private area, especially if you're student gets distracted pretty easily or has difficulty with focus and attention, this is a really key thing for their studying. One of the things that we really do not recommend is do not study in bed. We see often that it's a comfortable place. When you're studying you want to be able to be comfortable or maybe lay down while you're reading, or things like that. But we really don't recommend studying in bed because your body knows that bed is for sleeping and sleeping and studying don't mesh very well. I wish they did, but they don't. So we really don't recommend studying in bed and just finding a nice private area that's organized. Like we said, only has one or two of the next items within eyesight. A desk, but even if your child doesn't like sitting at a desk and prefers a swing or a bouncy ball or things like that, that's perfectly fine. But the key things are just making it an area that's conducive to working and studying and not something like your bed for sleeping.
Gwen: A big thing if it's in their room, trying to put away toys and distractions. Especially if they're a little bit older and more independent and they have video games or something in their room. Obviously it's very tempting and distracting. So if they can, if at all possible be away from different distractions and toys, we do recommend that. Sounds. So in general a quiet space is recommended, but if you can play things like classical music or nature sounds, it can actually help fill some cognitive voids. Especially if your child struggles with focus and attention. Because sometimes pure quiet can actually be a little bit distracting with different sounds outside the window, kids playing outside, things like that. So if you can have something like classical music or a nature sound machine, it can actually help increase focus and attention during study sessions. So purely up to you, how you want to optimize your child's study area, but these are just some things that we've seen success with and that we recommend.
Gwen: The color coding of folders and work. Like we said, visual cues can be very helpful. So if you have one or two of the next items, if you color code, say by chapter or subject, if they have a few tests in a few different subjects, color coding can be a very easy way of organizing the work. And also visually they can see if all the red folders are in the done pile, I know hey I'm done studying math class, now I need to move on to the blue ones which is for social studies. So it just is really helpful for them to stay organized and not get too overwhelmed.
Gwen: All right, so reminders. This is really helpful if you have a child that is highly distractible. So even if you optimize the study area and you have, let's say classical sounds in the background, you could still potentially have a child that struggles to ignore distractions. They may look out the window or forget what they're supposed to be doing, or start doodling on their paper, things like that. So we found that reminders are very helpful. Especially if you can cue them about what they should be studying. So it could be something simple, or you could make it more specific depending on the age of your child. A great and easy way to do this is just using Post-it notes. So if you as the parent know, okay tonight we're going to study chapter one of social studies. So just on their desk a little Post-it note that has some information about what they should be studying. We also have a product called the Revibe Connect, which you can see on the right hand side, and it does have pre-programmed Revibe custom text reminders on the Revibe. So we try to incorporate various features in our device that actually helps the child be more independent and the parent have less on their shoulders.
Gwen: So if you are interested in something that's like a wearable device that will help them stay focused and study and things like that, we do have that option. We also recommend with reminders, helping with timeframes. Because sometimes the kids aren't quite sure exactly when they're supposed to be doing what. So if you can be very specific and say, you schedule a study period where from 6 to 7 p.m., that's your child's study time. Being specific about the timeframe can often help them stay organized if they're not naturally organized and get overwhelmed with what they're supposed to do at the end of the day. Getting together the day of test taking materials and setting reminders for that is key. Because we want to reduce anything that's going to make your child worry the day of the test. We want to try to reduce all the worry and stress and anxiety that we can. So having a reminder set up for the day of to remind them to gather up all their test taking materials, and again begin very specific, like grab your pencil, your calculator, your eraser, and bring it with you to school. Things that are very specific so that way your child feels prepared and isn't worried about spending half their time on their test worrying about whether or not they remembered to bring a calculator, or whatever the case is.
Gwen: So here are some examples of reminders that are very specific that could help cue your child during a study session. So for example, study chapters one and two for social studies from 3 to 4 p.m. tonight. These types of reminders will definitely vary depending on the age of your specific child. But just things like that that can be very specific with a timeframe and a guide so that your child doesn't feel lost at any point. If they look at their desk and they're doodling, they'll be like oh man, I'm supposed to be studying social studies tonight. An example of a reminder could be color code your subject folders after dinner tonight at 7 p.m. And things like this that really just help the routine of your child are very helpful we found. And then like we were talking about, the day of test taking materials, putting your pencil, eraser, and calculator in your backpack on Wednesday morning for your math test. And again, it's just trying to help your child feel prepared and confident going into test day so that they're not worried or anxious leading up to it.
Gwen: So that was all about test preparation, now we're going to go into some actual test taking strategies that can help your child once the studying is over and they show up for test day. So the first thing we talked about, we strongly recommend gathering all test taking materials ahead of time. It sounds really simple, but just the slightest thing of forgetting an eraser can actually start upsetting a child, they start worrying, and it just totally throws off their mojo for the day. So if you can be prepared ahead of time, we strongly recommend it. It just reduces worry, they're prepared and they can just focus on the task at hand. We've probably all heard this strategy, but just answering the questions that they know first. So just going through the test. This is great for students that struggle with allotted timeframes as well. It's a way that they can get all of the answers that they know down in the allotted timeframe and then go back and work on the more difficult ones. So that's a great strategy.
Gwen: In general we recommend slow down to speed up. And this is great for children that may have difficulty with focus and attention specifically. Because we find with some of those children they'll try to speed through reading questions and answers, and they may make some mistakes that they didn't realize, or if they just have to read a passage multiple times because they're trying to speed through it and they're not actually absorbing the information. So in general we just recommend slowing down and reading each question carefully for two reasons. To reduce the small mistakes that are just made by rushing. And the second thing is especially for those kids that may have difficulty understanding information in a quick time frame, to be able to read the question carefully so that they can only read it once or twice instead of three or four times and actually absorbing what the question's asking.
Gwen: Underlining key parts. Especially if there's a lot of writing. We found that this is very helpful. It's hard when there's a big passage of text and it can get a little bit confusing or you're not exactly sure which part the questions are referring to. So if you can practice in your study sessions underlining key parts of passages, or ... Not as applicable for things like math tests, but for like reading, writing, history, things like that. Underlining key parts can be really helpful for understanding the question. If it's multiple choice obviously we recommend reading each response. Some questions can be really tricky, so this is a helpful tactic just to keep it nice and easy paced and not rushing through, not making mistakes, and not accidentally answering the wrong question.
Gwen: And lastly, we really recommend working with kids so that they are cognitively taking deep breaths throughout the test taking process. It can be very overwhelming and especially if they stumble upon a question that they're not quite sure what the answer is. It's really easy to start getting a little panicked, start worrying, wondering oh man, am I going to get a bad grade? Did I just get that one wrong? And we really recommend just when they feel that coming on, just take a big deep breath, inhale, exhale, try not to get frustrated. Just go to the next question, stay on track. And really trying to teach them stay calm throughout the test taking process so that they don't start getting worried and actually make the situation worse by just worrying so much and getting upset mid test. So we strongly recommend test day, taking nice deep breaths. If things don't go your way just stay on track, do your best, and then once the test is over we'll worry about the rest of it.
Gwen: Another great test taking strategy that's very helpful is just overall wellness. So setting a routine and a schedule can be extremely helpful for not only study time, but the day of the test. If your child is in a set routine and a schedule, you don't have to worry about them not sleeping well the night before, or those other factors that could pop up. So we definitely recommend scheduling things like homework and study time. A routine and a schedule is very good. Especially if your child is easily distractible or struggles with focus and attention. These are great things that can help them get into a nice structure. Obviously the night before the test, go to bed on time, maybe even early. Getting a good night's sleep is really, really powerful for test taking and brain function. Sleep is amazing for our brains. So really make sure that you prioritize bedtime the night before. We also recommend reducing screen time before a test. And that's just so that they can get a really good night's sleep without being disturbed. And also just so that their brain has a chance to really rest and absorb all the study material and not be focused on a video game or things like that.
Gwen: So again, this is just a suggestion. If your child really prefers to have some screen time before bed and that's part of their routine, and it works really well for all of you, then don't change it just because we're talking about it. But in general if you are looking for ways to improve your child's test taking, reducing screen time before a test and getting to bed early are two things that we do recommend. And obviously a healthy diet and exercise are helpful. You don't want any sugar crashes mid test, because that's no fun for anyone. A balanced breakfast on test day is really, really important. Making sure that they aren't hungry or thirsty or anything before a test. Go to the bathroom so that they don't have to worry about that in the middle of the test taking. Overall wellness is actually really great for focused attention, test taking, studying, things like that so these are all things that we do recommend.
Gwen: And our last strategy is to catch them being good. And this applies really to kind of all parts of education, especially for the children that struggle. But we always recommend finding opportunities to give positive reinforcement where possible. And some of the opportunities to give positive reinforcement may seem small. But once they start developing these positive and healthy habits, it really makes a big impact over time. So say your child, they made it through a whole page of a worksheet in the timeframe that you scheduled for them to do their work or do their study guides. That's a great opportunity to give positive reinforcement. Like we set this goal, you met it, great job. And the positive reinforcement could just be words of affirmation, great job, keep up the good work, we're proud of you, we love you. It could also be a tangible reward, depending on what you prefer as a parent. Things like, an extra 10 minutes of story time. We'll read an extra book together. You'll get some extra screen time. Whatever the case is, that's purely up to you as the parent. But we do recommend finding small opportunities to give positive reinforcement. This helps a lot with their overall feelings of self worth, but also when they're preparing for a test or something like that that's very stressful. It also helps them stay engaged and stay motivated.
Gwen: The second thing is try to keep studying and taking a positive experience. And I know as parents this can be so difficult. Because it can be really frustrating and stressful for everyone involved, especially your child and you as the parent. And it's especially difficult when you worked really hard and your child comes home with a grade that maybe was a little bit disappointing. You thought that they would do better. In general they're going to have to [inaudible 00:26:29] the cycle of studying and testing taking throughout their educational career. And it does escalate to a point depending on how your child pursues education, but it could be things like the SAT that helps with college admissions. It could be things through high school that help them with different placements in classes.
Gwen: So as they get older it can get more stressful and more high pressure, so if you can start when they're younger or start building now some healthy habits and keeping studying and test taking a more positive experience, it will all in the long term, it will start creating a healthier study habit and test taking habit where hopefully it won't be quite as stressful or won't be such a negative experience for them. It probably won't ever be fun. I don't know if anyone's ever gotten to the point where they think test taking is fantastic, but at least if it's a positive experience because their going to have to repeat it over and over again for their whole educational career.
Gwen: The third thing that we recommend is just learning how to do better next time. And like I said, that case where you studied, you planned two weeks ahead, you studied every night, you did all the things that everyone recommends and the test score didn't come out nearly as great as you were hoping for as the parents. Really looking at the test, as much information as you can look at and say, okay what worked and what didn't work, what was good about what we did and what didn't work so well, and see if there's anything that you can change to do better next time. Sometimes quite honestly, people have an off day and they just don't do well or they're fighting off a cold and the test score was low because they weren't feeling well. Things like that happen all the time, but if you can learn for your specific child, their unique needs, and maybe what we're recommending, there's a tweak that you can do that actually works even better for your particular child. So really taking it as an opportunity to just learn your specific child, because they're all unique and they all learn in different ways. And see if there's anything that you or the teacher or your child can do better next time.
Gwen: And lastly, we always just like to say a positive mindset is a powerful tool. So obviously if your child can stay positive throughout this process and learn how to do better next time or continue with the things that are working well, they're going to feel more confident, they're going to feel more empowered. And when they go into the test they're not going to be dreading it, worried and stressed out. And in general it's just going to be a really positive tool for your child.
Gwen: So to wrap up we're just going to go into our story and why we're so passionate about things like we're talking about today, we're helping kids, we're helping parents and teachers. So our company Revibe Technologies, it all started with a guy named Rich Brancaccio. He's right there on your screen. He is the founder of our company and he is a school psychologist that just wanted to help kids. And he was working in a school system locally here in North Carolina and he just wasn't satisfied with the current products on the market. So he specifically was helping children with focus and attention difficulties and he tried a bunch of tools that already exist that were within the budget for him as a school psychologist. And a lot of his students just weren't showing improvements in focus and attention. Or there were things about the devices that were embarrassing or clunky or didn't work, or distracting. So he decided that he was going to take matters into his own hands and started the company Revibe Technologies in 2013. And then in 2015 we launched our first product called the Revibe Classic. And what the Revibe Classic does is it's this little wristband, it's similar to like a Fitbit or other wearables that you put on your wrist, and it sends vibration reminders to the wrist of the user, and it helps them stay on task.
Gwen: So basically every time the vibration goes off, they ask themselves are they doing what they're supposed to be doing? And they use it as a cue to just increase their time spent on tasks. So this was a great tool. It's used in classrooms, used by parents of children that struggle with focus and attention, used by adults that struggle. And we also leveraged a lot of school systems that wanted to help their students as well. Similar to Rich's story of being in the school and not having the right resources. So then we've been doing that since 2015. It was very successful but we thought that we could do more. So in 2019 we actually launched our second product which is called Revibe Connect. And it still sends those vibration reminders to the wrist of the child or the adult using it, however we added an app so it can actually show focus, attention, steps, fidgeting, behavior, all throughout the day. And you get graphs and charts and all these things. So it's helping your child or you as an adult stay on task, but it's also collecting a lot of data and feedback so that you as the parent or the teachers can actually look and see where the child may be struggling, where they're excelling, and try to dig into some of the data to see where it can help better.
Gwen: These are great tools. Both the Revibe Connect and Revibe Classic are great tools as well for things like studying and even during a test. They can be worn during tests because there's no way that they can cheat with the device, it's just reminding them to stay on task, whatever that on task is. So if you have a child that struggles specifically with staying on task, focus, attention, things like that. Maybe allotted time frames where they have a hard time getting work completed in a specific timeframe because they get distracted. Things like this that it will send them reminders are very helpful.
Gwen: So for joining us on this webinar we do have a special offer. If you are at all interested in our Revibe Connect Plus package, real quickly I'll just go over what that package is since we mostly talked about other things in the webinar. In the middle is the bracelet like we talked about. It does have a watch feature. It also has the date on there. So a lot of kids just say it's a watch because they don't want to explain what it is to their peers. So that's what the wristband looks like and it sends vibration reminders to their wrist. It has a bunch of other features as well like the custom text reminders. On the left hand side you'll see an example of our app dashboard. So it comes with lots of graphs, charts, figures, there's little rocket ships that fly across the screen if the kids see progress. There's little insights that give you more information about your child throughout the day. So that's all included in this bundle. And it also comes with a spare purple and blue wristband. And for all of you that joined us on the webinar, as a big thank you for joining us, we do have a special $20 off coupon which you'll see on your screen there.
Gwen: And if you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out to us. Our email firstname.lastname@example.org is in the bottom right, and our phone number. Our customer service team is absolutely amazing and they're probably jumping here in the chat too to help you all out. But again, we want to thank you so much for joining us on our webinar. You guys were all very, very gracious for joining us and we really appreciate it. And if you have any questions we'll stick around for a little bit in the chat and try to answer any questions that you may have.
Gwen: Yeah no problem. And like I said we try to produce webinars that are helpful for parents and teachers and obviously the kids as well. So if there's anything that we didn't touch on that would be more helpful for all of you, please let us know that as well. We're always open for a lot more feedback. And if you have any questions feel free to chat them in now or you could call or email us if you want to do it in private, that's no problem at all either. But we'll stick around for a little bit in case anyone has any last minute questions. But if not we'll wrap up in a few minutes.
Gwen: Let's see. Yeah I saw someone was saying that they wanted to save up for a Revibe. So just as an FYI, we partnered with this company called Sezzle, so they break it down into four payments. It's basically like a payment plan. So for those that are on a strict budget and things like that, you can use Sezzle at checkout and it'll automatically break it into four payments. And they're a really great company. We've loved working with them. So that's an option as well if you prefer a payment plan option we do have Sezzle available.
Gwen: Oh wow, we've got a school psychologist. Yay. We love school psychologists. You guys are awesome and there's usually not enough of you so we really appreciate you. We just need to clone all of you so that there's a lot more.
Gwen: All right. We did get a question about are we able to try that way on the site at purchase. I'm not exactly sure if you're referring to the Sezzle plan. But yeah, Sezzle's available to everyone, it's on our website. It's just one of the checkout options. So if you ... You pick like whatever wristband you want. If you want to use this coupon just go to this link and use that coupon and then at checkout instead of paying with a credit card, Sezzle is just its own payment option. So you can just use that one.
Gwen: Yeah. Sezzle's available to everyone. So you can just at checkout just choose Sezzle. And it automatically breaks it into four payments for you in a payment plan.
Gwen: Oh we have a really good question about how long does it take for the product to begin working. So unfortunately the short answer is it depends, but what we can tell you is that for some kids it's immediate, it's within the first day that they actually start wearing it. We always recommend if possible that you use it at homework time before you send it to them at school, just so that way you as the parent can kind of guide them and answer any questions that they may have when they first start wearing it. But we have kids the first day of school they see an immediate improvement. For some kids that have never worn a watch or anything on their wrist and they kind of have to get used to wearing something on their wrist and the vibration reminders, for those kids it can take a week or a few weeks for them to fully get with the new technology. But in general we see kids in general start to show some progress pretty quickly. We did do a research study on Revibe and that's on our website as well. Revibetech.com if you're curious about it. If you call or email us we're happy to talk to you about the research as well. But we saw pretty immediate improvement for I think like 85% of our participants was within like the first day. So that's a great question, thank you for asking.
Gwen: All right I think we got all our questions, but like I said feel free to email us, chat us, or call us up on the phone. Our team is amazing and they'll take great care of you. Even if your question is not related to Revibe and it's just kind of a general school education question, send it to us and we'll try to help you as best we can or refer you to someone that may be more helpful.
Gwen: Okay, I'm going to answer this, it's a really good question. Have you found that students get immune to the reminders? Is there a way to vary the reminders? So what we did is actually there are a few things that change in our reminder vibrations so that way they don't get habituated which is getting used to it basically. So we change the vibration pattern so the children will actually feel different patterns every time it vibrates. You can change the strength and it will actually vary the strength in each pattern. And the time between reminders varies. So for example in our adaptive mode it customizes to your child's specific needs. So say on average it's about every five minutes your child needs a reminder in general. It would actually remind them, instead of doing every five minutes like a timer, say it might be four minutes, then it might be six minutes, then it might be eight minutes or then three minutes. Things like that. So it does vary the time between the reminders so that it has a higher probability of catching them when they're off task and it also reduces habituation. That's a great question.
Gwen: Shaniqua you have great questions. You're an amazing webinar guest. Thanks for joining us. I love your questions. Okay, any other last minute questions before we log off? Okay. I think that's it. Thank you all so much for joining us. Like I said, we'll actually be sending a follow up email with a copy of the webinar and the link and the coupon code just in case you're not in a position to write it down and you're interested. But like I said, reach out to us, even if it has nothing to do with Revibe, we're happy to try to help in any way that we can or share resources if you have any questions. So thank you all for joining us and we'll talk to you soon.